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hey PENN - fun time listening to your work. yes, very Rat Pack - just a touch more attention to timing and intonation will do you wonders. please keep on keepin' the faith and you just might find yourself playin' gigs on the Vegas strip. THX 4 Sharing!
Hey Guys...I just posted some of my tracks and would like to get some feedback...please let me know what u think.
So far I've spent close to $500.00 on licensing/contest submissions and not one consideration. I didn't think my music was that bad. I think I'm going to have to stop wasting my hard earned money.
Hey Paul, that's a shame! you write good stuff. One can, sad enough, almost never tell, what a provider is looking for.... Don't beat yourself up about it... Your music just hasn't been presented to the right provider yet.... For me it's a first see then believe situation.... had a few considerations that ended nowhere (and that's with most considerations... so far all the songs that have been condidered for opportunities that I submitted to, wich where like 20 or so... not one consideration, wich were all other artists, has lead to a placement, all dead ends) "the consideration process has now ended, thank you for your participation" and that's it. Have on placement this year, ac does he, although the episode that it will be used for will be shown this fall.... wait and see.... I first want to see the revenue on my bank acount and then I will believe it.... I think along with the BJ membership fee I am also near the 500 dollar spent.
Hey Paul, I've had 3 considerations & spent about $200.00.So far no placements. Its almost like playing the lottery to me. I don't take it personal. Its like a shot in the dark sometimes. I bought a book called "Shortcuts to Songwriting for Film & TV" by Robin Frederick. It kind of helped me in my pitching ability. Paul your music is great. Maybe we need a better place to pitch our music or a personal publisher.
I think alot of these sites (Taxi, Broadjam) etc are just a giant lottery ticket, that rarely cashes in. The good thing about them is they keep you focussed on your goals even if they arent necessarily realized by the people your pitching too. I've written stuff for Taxi that got rejected and then ended up on NBS Prime time with a nice paycheck and royalties to boot just by sending the song to another publisher, who happened to like it. I use the listings to keep me working and improving, I don't put much stock in the actuality of getting some big deal through the sites. I of course could be wrong. "Even God cannot keep the diligent worker down" - Confuscious.
lottery ticket - I like that analogy. because, so many (of us) are banking on becoming the "ONE" that hits the jackpot (or, at least makes a living). but, unlike the lottery, we have the opportunity to narrow those odds by 'learning the trade'. licensing: this is rarefied territory that we can't buy at the convenience store. not a crapshoot if we know the odds, follow the trends, track who is successful, understand why they are successful, imagine provider soundboards including scene plot versus time restraint. even then, given this 'professional knowledge', we are still players in a percentile game. 2% at best (and, I believe I am being generous) will find placement. so, what does it take? $500, $5000, heart and soul, second born. your guess is as good as mine because THAT GAME changes everyday. here's what I do know - I LOVE MUSIC. . . not just mine; but, so much of what I hear amongst these member pages. no wonder the providers have such a 'Hard Time'
Paul, the quality of your music has nothing to do with selection by some provider. It's all about meeting some demographic (usually very young and brainless). Don't take it personally. You are one hell of a sax player. For what it's worth, the biggest difference between licensing and winning a lottery is the cash prize. With most lotteries, the prize is in the millions. If your song is chosen by some "provider", you're looking at $100 - $2500. Moral of the story...PGO is correct. Keep doing it for love and you won't regret the lack of monetary reward.
You are so correct!! When you play Jazz or Jazz/Fusion you have to do it because you love it.
Hey Paul! Don't get depressed...just save your money and send your stuff to publishers...it's a better way I think. I used to submit and spent alot of money, ( I don't think my stuff is that bad, but u decide) but got absolutely nowhere on this site. Not one interest...The providers don't give us enough detailed info as to what they're looking for...and the only ones making money is broadjam...they don't care. So save your money...use a publisher! A lot less money and better odds! (You'll learn most of the businesses on the net are good for only one thing...taking your money!)
Teddy, you are so right. I do like this site and appreciate the feed back and the review capabilities but not the "Opportunities". I've met some wonderful musicians on this site.
Well now that I see all the complains, I can take my money somewhere else! Wont catch me slipping!
Let's be honest people this site as well as others are for independant publishers and very few a list placements... I've landed a placement on here but the publisher only used the music for his library and then placed the music in a independant film with no cue sheet or any indication to what song he placed in the film which makes me question weather or not i was placed at all... but the feed back and the community is great... I've come to one relization and this is from 14 years of production and artist development experience... The Good Music Directors i.e. the ones that place music in blockbuster movies and shows have a list of pre approved music that they go to. to get on that list there are several things that you have to do before you are even on the radar... I love what a friend of mine once told me it's gonna take (i forget the actual number) a # of no's before you get to the yes so take each no as another step closer to the yes... things turn around when you change your point of view... keep up the hard work
Paul visiting your page I'm seeing this thread late. I am SO skeptical about the "placement" services of BJ and Taxi. Of course if 200 people submit to an opportunity only one gets the nod and the odds are low. There's no question about the quality of your music, and if the match of music to posting is close then you should get something out of it at some point. What I think is sorely missing is more transparency in the submission process. If an "opportunity" is actually working with Broadjam in earnest then they should provide some feedback on any submission, eg "We liked it but we needed a more bebop jazz than contemporary," etc., but then again if the placement description is done well in the first place there shouldn't be too much guesswork about suitability. But as it is it's a total black box: money goes in and "Sorry try your luck again" comes out. I did this one time here and said PHOOEY. I'd love to believe that this is an earnest brokerage that tries to connect people to opportunities, but I think the real opportunity is that of cashing in on hopeful musicians, who are always driven to make and expose their music. I think the good part about this is having critiques like the one I got from you this morning, and hearing the music of other committed and talented people like you. The guys drumming in an African village 200 years ago did because doing it was good. I think we all need to stick with that. Jeff
Jeff...I think you're spot on right!! It's a crapshoot!! The only one really making $$ is broadjam...which is why the opportunities are 'vague'...they don't care. Anyway...I've got some tunes on here and would sure appreciate a few reviews if anyone one this thread cares to listen and let me know what u think....best of luck! Teddy Chazz
Hey Paul, I paid for a few considerations but stopped after thinking someone is making a lot of money and the production companies are getting original music on the cheap. Must sound like sour grapes, but I now realise that they are only looking for perfect studio quality demo's. I cannot come close to anything like that good, and cannot afford to employ any of the pro's who plug their services on here. Ho hum! Good luck bro!
Thanks for your review of 'How Can I Miss You?'...If you like that kind of music, stop by and listen to the other tracks. I think you'll like them just as much...if not more. Best regards!
Teddy-Thanks for the note! Like your stuff! Keep up the good work! Had a friend in Columbus, who use to play the magic castle back in the early 80's. Very cool! All the best-Mike
Thanks for your very generous review of 'Angel of Love.' I appreciate it greatly. If you liked that track please stop by and check out some of my other tunes and let me know your favorite. My Cd's theme is 'love' and the songs are all about friendship, romance, communication and building a stronger relationship. Let me know what you think. Best regards!
Thanks for your review of 'Angel Of Love.' Glad to hear you injoyed the track. Hope you can stop by and listen to a few more tracks on my profile page. Best regards!
Liked your music. Very nice. You have a beautiful voice. If you get a chance, please check out some of my tracks at www.broadjam.com/teddychazz Thanks
Thanks Teddy! Will do, on holidays but as soon as I have proper access to broadjam (not just iPhone) I'll have a listen! Cheers and all the best!
Congratulations on having your song selected for consideration for the film opportunity recently listed! I listened to the songs chosen ...and I think you have a wonderful voice...and it's a catchy tune. I write all my own tracks, so if u ever run short of material and are looking for a new song, let me know. I wouldn't write for many artists, but I like your voice. Anyway, best of luck to you...I Hope you win. Teddy Chazz
Thanks Teddy!